They don’t have any feats to suggest they are higher than that till Frieza. In his First Augmentation form, King Cold becomes noticeable taller in addition being far more muscular. Captain Ginyu has a body-swap power and unleashes it on Goku. The manga volumes that it is made up of are “The Ginyu Force” and “Goku vs. Ginyu“. Captain Ginyu is the leader of the Ginyu Force. Cos on Namek everyone seems pretty freaked out by the fact that Frieza could destroy the planet Namek easily if he wanted to and all of them should scale much higher than Saiyan Saga Vegeta at this point. That's going in the big book of dumb Comic Vine quotes. Naruto has better feats and versatility. I told you both Naruto and Ginyu are planet level no higher than that tier. Naruto high diff. The energy necessary to lift an object to a certain height is also equal to the change in gravitational potential energy of the object before and after being lifted. The only chance is the Truth-Seeking Balls. And I'm not counting on them. A solar system fighter isn’t even needed and would be overkill x 4. From the off, it’s clear that Goku has the advantage, with his high-gravity training ensuring Captain Ginyu is no match for his power, speed or fighting ability. These two illustrious colourful groups of power have much in common, and we've had them fight before. vs. Vegeta (Super Saiyan) "Something's different, but I know that's you, Vegeta! none of that is hax, hax are usually abilities based on concepts/reality bending or rules/laws that cant be broken via power, hax is something that completely disregards power/ability of a character, there is no such thing as hax abilities in naruto, there are overpowered abilities like Kamui and Sharingan but there is no hax. This part of the fight should be simple, and once you lower his health, the battle will pause as Jeice and Burter show up. It takes a lot of kinetic energy required to perform the feat. Both are planet level with relativistic+ speed feats. @bluelantern1996: And? © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. That means Naruto and Sasuke 40 zettatons over the normal planet level. When inside of King Cold's body, he shares his appearance including all of his transformed looks. Ginyu was a tall, muscular individual who constantly wore the armor employed in Freeza's army. vs. Piccolo "Stay sharp, men! Some Naruto fans are annoying too and I know this full well for instance Madara fans are hella annoying. Dragonball. Round 2: Garlic Jr transforms using the Makyo Star. Definitely not worth by time arguing with a troll who’s probably some ALT that got banned for arguing about “Naruto.”. While he is saying this he tells Nail telepathically that they must keep Frieza distracted so the humans can find the Dragon Balls. Also Ginyu never fodderized anyone. @bluelantern1996: He wasn't referring to that feat at all. The Ginyu Force was called over to Namek by Frieza to take Vegeta's Dragon Balls back from him. The translator is organic dinosaur a very accurate translator who has translated spoilers and novels for years. So with attack potency equal it comes down to versatility which Naruto stomps Ginyu in. Even tho after getting his hidden potential awakened should’ve been at least Saiyan Saga Goku Level when fighting Vegeta. Across the planet over to where Captain Ginyu and Gokuare, Captain Ginyu tells Goku he can beat him because Goku is not trained to be a killing machine like him. Full Hagoromo has 200 zettatons he gives half his power to Sasuke and half to Naruto. But even then the feat would be no where close to Solar System Level it would only be Star+ level. Even if goku is faster it clearly wasn't by much and ginyu at full power can easily crush 90,000 goku.... Ginyu wins. Which team wins? Is Goku superior in speed? Anything higher is like death sentence for him. Captain Ginyu has no Hax besides body change which is useless against a army of clones. 281, 282] After Ginyu switches bodies with Goku, they chase after Krillin, Gohan and Vegeta, where Jeice begins a fight with Vegeta and is killed. Garlic Jr vs Captain Ginyu 1 on 1 to the death. TSB, massive clone spam, elite tier sensory and perception feats, healing. vs. Goku (Super Saiyan) / Goku (GT) "The full might of the Ginyu Force will defeat you!" @mwarren100: I’m not wanking stop lowballing. re: Full power Captain Ginyu vs Goku (W/O kaioken) Ginyu wins. 200 if you divide the energy. Half of that would still be small planet level. The leaders will not take part. And the god awful power levels make them even worse. So that’s 4 resources that backs Naruto up. Ginyu blinks and it does nothing. Ginyu in Goku's body attacked by Gohan. This contuse in volume of the series Goku has beaten all the Ginyu forces but Jheese he ran away to get captain ginyu to fight son Goku. I'm just telling it like it is. After securing all the Dragon Balls, Ginyu initially decided to fight Vegeta and leave Recoome, Burter, Jeice, and Guldo to do rock-paper-scissors to decide who gets to fight Gohan and Krillin, but after receiving arguments from them, he decide… first form frieza can still crush 100% of Naruto verse. Vegeta can vaproize planets with casual energy beams and they are around 10000 power level. Planet level in namek saga is fodder level anyway. This is the end of the line!" Ino can't dodge that, and she can't escape that nor has anything to hurt a guy who makes HST Villains look like pushovers. Captain Ginyu realizes Goku is not using his full power in their fight and requests Goku to reveal his full power, which he does, shocking Ginyu and Jeice, as Goku's power was 180,000, while Ginyu's was 120,000. Ginyu could stomp middle of Namek Saga Vegeta, a character who should be able to casually wipe out planets without skipping a beat. You debunked yourself. So they are in sane tier only difference is Naruto’s amazing versatility which gives him the win against anyone with equal stats. @ckarma: Naruto has no Hax ? A little headcanon there ? Outraged, Burter charges at Goku with an all-out offensive, with Jeice soon joining in. I think it was debunked for the manga version. Bruh Captain Ginyu eats Earth busters for breakfast. Or perhaps a lion and a tiger battling and a hunter just comes walking in. @mwarren100: oh that dudes lost his mind then lol that’s the only reasonable explanation. It was already confirmed in a section of saikyou jump that Hokage Naruto using Kurama Avatar TBB has power to blow up the earth. Goku vs Freezer collection; Release date: 2011; The Goku vs Freezer collection set was released in 2011 and brings together a few of the characters from the "Super Saiyan Goku … At the start of the episode, Frieza flies up and talks to Grand Elder Guru. Round 1: In-character So Naruto has half of Hagoromo power which is 100 zettatons 40 points higher than normal planet level. [ch. re: Great Ape Nappa vs Ginyu Force (Without Captain Ginyu) Nappa was able to fight evenly with Goku who has a power level over 8,000. @bluelantern1996: Ginyu fodderized a planet level opponent. Now, Captain Ginyu has a powerful body and Goku is left in a weakened, injured one. That’s why Frieza to Android Saga is easier to scale than Saiyan to Namek Saga. We never got to see these two duke it out at full power.The gap between them is the same as KKx3 goku vs vegeta or vegeta vs cui.But even though Ginyu is much stronger goku is much faster.Do you think that goku's superios speed can win against Ginyu ? Based on what ? Ginyu only the level he is with scaling just like 98% of Saiyan Saga - Namek Saga. @bluelantern1996: Big difference between slicing off a planet levelers arm and “landing 3 hits on her” and completely fodderizing someone planet level to a point where they can’t damage him. Even things on attack on Titan related. If so anime naruto should be able to blitz and one shot since the anime one dodged light. Super Saiyan 4 Goku Swallows 4 Star Dragonball 1080p HD Dragonball GT. Body change will prove naught as Ginyu will use it on any clone since he can’t differiate the difference between original and clones. Burter and Jeice continue their losing battle against Goku. While Jheese threw Goku off, Goku did comment on Ginyu's incredible strength. Stop using creation feats. - Vegeta tail cannot be cut.- Ginyu cannot switch bodies.- moon cannot be destroyed.- Fight on indestructible earth.- No BFR.- Fight in character.- Sa This is why most people don’t take naruto seriously on comicvine anymore. Lol did you even read Naruto ? He literally only fought one person In manga which is Goku who wrecked him silly. Who wins? Naruto could barely wipe out the surrounding lands. King Vegeta destroyed 3 worlds . Even if he loses he can just switch bodies with him. Ginyu stomps. Naruto is nowhere near planet level. I don't have a hate boner for naruto . None of them have any Hax or speed feats that suggest they stomp Naruto. He recently just Said Madara and sage made naruto before sixth paths power ups were solar system level. Which is still more than Planet Level since Planet Level is 60 zettatons. Vegeta in Saiyan Saga was planet + and he’s an ant compared to Ginyu. DragonBall Z Burst Limit Walkthrough Part 13 Captain Ginyu Attacks! “@mwarren100: Aren't you the one using scaling now when naruto has not demonstrated any planetary feat himself you hypocrite.“, @mwarren100: coming from the same guy who created a Jigen vs SSJ Gohan thread you obviously have a Hate Boner for Naruto. Naruto damages Kaguya with his most powerful attack super TBB Rasenshuriken, Ginyu has scaling and body change as the only thing going for him but his scaling doesn’t do anything since both are planet level, Also Ginyu is only planet level not anything higher, @raziel2014: TSB is Hax because it bypasses durability and can destroy parts of Edo tensei bodies how isn’t that Hax lol. Him and Guldo are the only ones that have Hax on his team. Captain Ginyu Saga is the name for the middle third of the much larger Frieza Saga in Dragon Ball Z, according to FUNimation dub‘s naming conventions for the English language anime, making it the third saga of the Dragon Ball Z series. Captain Ginyu challenged Goku, but it became apparent early on that Goku held the advantage and would have won if the fight continued at the same pace. I’ve already countered it tho. @bluelantern1996: I did out of rage from animefreak1. Idk DBZ early sagas are just all over the place and hard to gauge especially when statements like these contradict the scaling. He and Burter attack Goku together, but when Burter is incapacitated, he flees to fetch Captain Ginyu. Guru says Nail was trained differently than the other Namekians and that he is much stronger. What is a “Small planet level” calc supposed to mean? Liti. And Naruto isn’t small planet level he is planet level evenly for having half the power of Hagoromo who created and moved moon to orbit with gravitational binding energy with Hamura the feat is a 400 zettaton feat and divided by 2 is 200 zetattons Naruto and Sasuke have half of 200 which is 100 zetattons 60 is planet level. 1:19. Round 1: Garlic Jr and Captain Ginyu command the their underlings to fight to the death. Vegeta is planet+ in Saiyan Saga ? He has a high basic attack power and large amounts of Ki. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Naruto has better anti-feats than planet level ones and he hardly has any hax. TSB also doesn’t negate durability it was never said that it does, it just cancels out ninjutsu. Goku and Captain Ginyu fight it out to the end--in each other's bodies! ... DBzKai Goku vs Ginyu Force. Donald Trump. You remind me of those guys on fortnite that ambush you when you’re having a 1 on 1 battle with somebody. Sorry. I give this book the rating of five star because it just like I said on volume 7.At the end son Goku get this body taken by ginyu and get it back. He’s probably referring to Kaguya feat of creating then about to destroy her small solar system pocket space where she created moons, planets, and a Star which they revolve around. Aren't you the one using scaling now when naruto has not demonstrated any planetary feat himself you hypocrite. Summary: During their fight, Goku is surprised to see Captain Ginyu halt and brutally injure himself. Planet Level to Ginyu is fodder ? Ginyu is hard overkill for him. MinhARC. Round 3: Garlic Jr transformed plus all the Spice Boys vs Captain Ginyu and the full Ginyu Force, in a fight to the death. Captain Ginyu is strong enough to hold a planet buster like pre-Zenkai Namek Saga Goku in a full nelson & fight off other z fighters. They're the leader of their colourful illustrious groups, and now they're both entering the ring! They aren’t anywhere close to that. It’s really sad. Cold grows out lots of horns all over his … So Naruto is planet+ Level. Narutos strong but compared to Ginyu, hes not even worth a body change. I dont remember that. Who will claim victory this time?! This is basically if Hax could work against planet busting attacks from a guy was able to fight off Goku in namek saga. Prepare to die!" 1 Description 2 Interlude 3 Captain Ginyu 4 White Ranger 5 Fight! I'm not sure what all this drama is about but Ginyu should stomp pretty hard, @bluelantern1996: lol at naruto even being planet level let alone above it. Really getting sick of the wank though. Trending. 14 Goku vs. Captain Ginyu (3 episodes) As a precursor to Goku’s battle with Frieza , our hero is forced to take down the leader of the goofy band of henchmen known as the Ginyu Force. Back at Guru's place, Nail says he knows a place Frieza an… With Goku's life hanging by a thread, Gohan and Kuririn must use the seven Dragon Balls of Namek to summon the mighty Dragon Lord, who can grant any three wishes! Ginyu wrecks Goku. If I recall correctly, Ginyu and Goku were still suppressed to about 60,000 during their fight, so we don't actually know if Full Power Goku's speed is superior to Full Power Ginyu's speed. re: Great Ape Nappa vs Ginyu Force (Without Captain Ginyu) Just cause your a full power does not mean you can't be at calm. But even without just that you have multiple planet level statements in databooks, as well as the novel, as well as magazines like saikyou jump that says Naruto as adult can destroy the earth. Just superior in speed against a suppressed Ginyu I thought. Goku easily dodges their hits, and with little effort, knocks Burter out (but not killing him), leaving Jeice the only member left standing. Even Krillin was freaked out by Recoome causing a big explosion and said he warped the planet. He can use skills like Milky Cannon and Body The cover features the vision Gohan has of him riding the Flying Nimbus with his father Goku trapped in Captain Ginyu's body, wearing his typical orange gi, and carrying the Power Poleon his back. No preparation, knowledge and restriction. "I have no reason to fear a Namekian!" "I will avenge all the good men you killed on Namek! As the first fighter to force Goku to unleash his full power shortly after the heroic warrior arrived on Namek and leading the colorful and eccentric Ginyu Force, Captain Ginyu has gone on to become one of the Dragon Ball franchise's most recognizable characters and a staple in subsequent video game adaptations.. Ginyu one shots. Naruto has half of Hagoromo power. A weaker member of the force had the power to warp the planet so I can imagine Ginyu, “@ckarma: You still can’t counter that Ginyu fodderized planet level + characters while arguing Naruto is small planet level.”. Ginyu 120000. Accepting that he is at odds with Goku, Ginyu's next action is a startling one. It’s like Vados who moved the super Dragonballs that were the size of planets. After dodging all their attacks with little to no effort, he is able to sneak up behind Burter, who prides himself to be the fastest being in the universe. He says adult saskue and naruto are multiversal and kaguya is high multiversal+. Withou fan scaling he mayby can fight with Nappa. I swear naruto is becoming the most wanked franchise on this site. @mwarren100: Making mismatches out of rage will only get your threads locked. 59 zettatons is planet level. He technically would’ve been 200 zettatons but the feat Hagoromo did was halved cus he did it with Hamura as they retconned it. Show plus. Gravitational Binding Energy is defined as the amount of energy it would take to scatter the mass of a gravitationally bound body to the point that its own gravity will not pull it back together again. Goku vs Freezer collection Captain Ginyu in Goku's body color version figurine. 3:18. “TSB also doesn’t negate durability it was never said that it does, it just cancels out ninjutsu.”, Actually it does it destroys things on a molecular level Oonoki even said TSB is the same as Jinton which ignores durability. #NEWS| Biden accuses Trump of hiding COVID-19 to protect stock market. He doesn’t even consider them opponents. Goku is only planet level at this time. But as I said before it doesn’t scale to her regular attack potency. Why even make a Jigen vs SSJ Gohan when you yourself don’t even think anyone in the verse is close to planet level lol. Jeice is voiced by Kazumi Tanaka in the original series and Daisuke Kishio in Kai. We never got to see these two duke it out at full power.The gap between them is the same as KKx3 goku vs vegeta or vegeta vs Start 30 meters away. vs. Captain Ginyu (Fight with Goku) Win by K.O or death. Hagoromo and Hamura creating and moving the moon is 400 zettaton feat. Frieza Vs GOKU PREDATOR VS WOLVERINE SUPER CABBA VS SUPER VEGETA Akuma Vegeta wants to be god of destruction Goku vs Bergamo Zeno Calls Goku Goku vs Jeice & Burte Goku vs Captain Ginyu (Full Fight) Dragon Ball Z: The Movie | Official trailer 2020 This is poop in the punch. Originally, Ginyu shared the same appearance as his canon counterpart. Captain Ginyu was strong enough to hold pre-Zenkai Namek Saga Goku in a headlock full nelson. Naruto and Sasuke eventually create their own moon and replicate same thing Hagoromo did. He also has 100 zettatons power amp From Hagoromo which makes him Planet Level too. No preparation, knowledge and restriction. It’s a lot like Goku’s spirit bomb where it’s always stronger than goku’s forms. Are Naruto's physicals kiloton level? ), “Vegeta in Saiyan Saga was planet + and he’s an ant compared to Ginyu.”. Ginyu stomps. I'd say Ginyu would've won with ease if Kaio-Ken was never a factor. @ckarma: Naruto sliced off a planet leveler arm and got solid hits on her 3 times in total. Even without that you have Naruto having 50% of Hagoromo power who created the moon with Hamura and moved it into space. If people paid attention to the math in Naruto they wouldn’t understimate it’s god tiers like this. The Ginyu Force arrived at the site where Vegeta, Krillin, and Gohan had all seven Dragon Balls. 400 zettatons at least. Goku can't figure out why, until it's too late. But whoa solar system is a huge stretch. Ginyu didn’t fodderize any planet level person he was defeated by 100 gravity Goku and fodderized. The feat is a planet level feat via Gravitational Binding Energy. I don't know if it's entirely true, but I believe Naruto is around Ginyu Force level. The GBE is a formula that only works on objects that are mostly held together by their own gravity (meaning: large objects in space such as asteroids, moons, planets, stars, etc. Ginyu stomps. @ckarma: if you want to talk on YouTube or discord we can without 3rd partyers, @bluelantern1996: You still can’t counter that Ginyu fodderized planet level + characters while arguing Naruto is small planet level. Goku; This battle begins with you and Goku fighting Captain Ginyu. Naruto can't dodge that, and he can't escape that. But her ETSB is a last resort and she can’t use it normally in battle. Stop wanking . Ginyu … Yea goku gets smashed. is not good to take databook to literal more so since a lot of that gets lost in translation, by databook info temari can destroy the universe, hiruzen is the strongest kage and Amaterasu is as hot as the sun. Ginyu, having recognized this, changed the tide of battle by purposely injuring himself and using his special power to swap bodies with Goku. @ckarma: Naruto damages someone that can destroy worlds bruh. The Ginu Force and the Power Rangers. And who did captain Ginyu fodderize ??? He straight up said bijuu are dwarf star levels and kurama is large star from powerscaling. As much I like naruto, putting him against anyone past saiyan saga doesn't seem fair to me. CUZ I only remember him fighting Goku and losing. Goku may be more tenacious and skilful than Ginyu, but those attributes are not going to make up for a whopping 25% gap. 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